Swingin' Live at the Church in Tulsa

It was the water I swam in. From this perspective, I could see I was really surrounded. I was deep in the water of the music. When I started, it was really important to play for myself. Then I had some opportunities to join different bands. I knew a lot of music to play. Those guys didn't know the origins of the music. I would bring them songs I would think they knew, and I had to teach them the songs. We ended up having bands that sounded so different. They were oriented toward: "It's on the radio, therefore it is." I was like, "It's in the universe, therefore it is." I realized if it wasn't somebody else's music, I didn't really know the music or the tradition or any of the people who were in it. That's when I started buckling down and paying attention.